电影业界 很牛逼的镜头是不是Arri Carl Zeiss Master Primes 系列了？

vip-lqf

唉 突然发现定焦的成像质量要好很多，想问问这个问题
那法国安琴的变焦与它相比呢

PerryHope

错了, PANAVISION Primo Lens 20年后仍然比 Arri Master Prime 还原色，色差、解画...高,
新出的莱卡电影镜头是目前最佳镜头，可惜国内应还没有...
变焦和定焦制造工艺不同、这也是为什么蔡司目前只有生产和设计几支变焦，而安琴也没再生产定焦...
除了Cooke外...

g.yang

就国内来说，mp是顶级了。

PerryHope

g.yang 发表于 2012-2-9 22:49
就国内来说，mp是顶级了。

除了因为它贵外、真正和其它镜头的区别?
如果用一支 50mm T1.3 的Master Prime 和 一支 50mm T1.8 的Red Pro Prime 共同测试后的结果是 Red那支的解像比 Master Prime 高，而价钱相差7倍之多，那还会考虑购买 Master Prime 吗?

个人觉得先了解镜头能给您带来什么的效果，如果选择适合自己拍摄要求，
制作成本是否可满足，那才去选择应用的镜头，而不是因为它贵就一定是最好的、而选择用它...

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?71717-FINALLY!!!-Got-my-Canon-mounts-and-just-tested-the-hell-out-of-it!
http://www.cinematography.net/lens-comparisons.html [Master vs Cooke vs Red Pro Prime]

广州兄弟

perry说的对极了，器材不是越贵越好的。

sean_tian

镜头到了这个级别，一般人很难有机会进行测评了，所以大家简单的以价格论英雄也就不奇怪了

g.yang

PerryHope 发表于 2012-2-10 01:25
除了因为它贵外、真正和其它镜头的区别?
如果用一支 50mm T1.3 的Master Prime 和 一支 50mm T1.8 的Re ...

我想可能是我阐述的不够清晰，的确作为级别来说，他是顶级了。测试方面我的确没有过尝试。但无数拍摄前资方会提出这样的要求，不到不接受，其实就拍摄效果来说， mp给我留下深刻印象的是无论广角或者是中焦段，景深控制非常到位，解像力方面如果缩小几档后其他镜头种类的效果都差不多。在不用胶片，大部分依赖后期的今天。我认为镜头的性价比很重要，并非只看重价格。

zeiss-leica

设计莱卡的就是设计PANAVISION Primo的，无论是外观还是内核，个人胡言，莱卡都基本继承了PANAVISION Primo的一切，所以，不能买PANAVISION Primo的，买莱卡是比较接近的。

zeiss-leica

当然要想租到莱卡，想必是很难的了。

zeiss-leica

刚看了http://www.reduser.net/forum/sho ... the-hell-out-of-it!那个帖子,其中一段说佳能
Ketch, I'll never take what you say the wrong way. :)
So all is cool.
We are all big boys, been around for years, shot everything from 10x8 t0 super 8... been there done that. Made our millions... So its ok to share with me some of your thoughts and experiences.

Regarding the Master primes, 50mm Canon back to back we did (and only for a bit of fun) ... nobody was more agasp more than me... I was just bragging to every with me at the time that the Master primes will eat the canon for breakfast... we shot the same thing, put it up on a huge projector and a 2.4 screen, ZOOMed up to 100% 200% 400% 800%... quite literally made a fool of myself because there was not a single bit of difference... on the edges included. That was @ f8.
If I cut the slate of the front, you would think it was from the same lens.

The worst was about to come, both lenses were set to f1.2 for the canon, f1.3 for the master prime... Ouch. The Canon was sharper.
Sorry mate.... Proof is in the pudding....

Mind you! Here me out...

I have had many lenses from nikon, Arri, and Canon over the years, (to many) And quite often I have swapped them out. I went through 3 different 600m F4's before I got a sharp one. 2 - 4002.8's 4 - 16 to 35's before I got a sharp one, 2 - 50mm 1.2's before I get a sharp one..... and I have never been able to send back my soft 18mm Ultra prime.. or soft 18 and 24mm Ziess... We had a soft 29 - 290 soft one day.. so not all lenses are built the same.

Regarding Leica glass... Well. Only the crazy rich will ever know the quality of Leica.

Regarding hanging my EPIC off the 600mm... Seriously does not worry it, but would hate to drop it... thats when it gets messy. But I doupt Ill do it again anyway, becuase it was out of balance. I'm going to make a rig to balance it.

At the end of the day, we all have done our personal testing, some more than others. I went into my canon lens testing only for a laugh... As plastic toy lenses have never floated my boat... but surprise surprise... Reminds me of when I got my first RED 5 years ago. We only bought it to replace a DV CANON XL1... hahahahaha... What we got was another shock.

So life goes on...

g.yang

g.yang 发表于 2012-2-10 17:58
我想可能是我阐述的不够清晰，的确作为级别来说，他是顶级了。测试方面我的确没有过尝试。但无数拍摄前资 ...

大光圈下焦点不好掌握 但N多米外 景深范围很明显

贝子墨

PerryHope 发表于 2012-2-10 01:25
除了因为它贵外、真正和其它镜头的区别?
如果用一支 50mm T1.3 的Master Prime 和 一支 50mm T1.8 的Re ...

是的，也是王道！

mao0739

定焦确实是好啊，看了很多图片和视频，绝对的，但如果能用上安琴变焦，一般不会嫌变焦不好，因为安琴变焦也是超级的好啊。

遥远了，我还是喜欢蔡司ZF2相机镜头和索尼蔡司变焦相机镜头，因为她离我近一些。

frankie629

zeiss-leica 发表于 2012-2-10 19:25
设计莱卡的就是设计PANAVISION Primo的，无论是外观还是内核，个人胡言，莱卡都基本继承了PANAVISION Primo ...

莱卡也有电影头？还请请教小弟无知了