RED这回玩脱了。。。求内幕

无语的人

http://philipbloom.net/2011/12/10/nomoreepic/

3 I emailed someone very high up at RED complaining about this being on that thread. That person did act on it thankfully on reduser quickly and shut them up, but then he also subjected me to a LOT of emails which were more and more upsetting to me due to the words being used and what was being said. I had also literally just stepped off a transatlantic flight when I was getting them. Bad timing!

This person said me talking about the issues I had with the camera (completely ignoring all the wonderful complements I had given the camera too!) was against our “agreement”. He said when I got the camera early it was on the agreement that I would not talk about it’s issues. This was not the case. First off…I didn’t get the camera early, I got it when the Red.com website said “Buy today, shoot tomorrow”. The Epic M was in stock and it took 3 months for me to get my bits for it. Secondly… I have not and would never agree to be silent about any issues I personally had with a camera, especially one that ended up costing me close to $80k with accessories. I of course paid the full price for the camera. That is not who I am, I am open and honest about my experiences. My whole website, facebook and twitter is about sharing my experiences. How could I possibly do a blog post about a shoot, share the footage and NOT mention I had serious issues on the shoot. Sorry but that is not me. I had no written agreement. There was also no verbal agreement as I had never spoken to that person. There is no way I would not be honest on a product and if someone asked me to not to post negative issues then I would not get involved with said company.

As the emails went on that person DEMANDED to buy the camera back as they didn’t want me to have it anymore. I of course was utterly shocked. I tried to explain the value of me talking about the good AND the bad and how I got past the issues, I explained the value of having openeness about my experiences, after all RED have been great in helping me get it up and running each time and this was a huge positive!

I could not believe what I was reading. For me this was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I put up with the issues as I loved the camera, for the most part I loved the support I had received from the community (owners not fanboys), some in particular were fantastic. They know who they are. But getting abuse from this high up when I should have had support was not on. I decided if I was to be treated like this by ANY company, I wanted nothing to do with them. Especially one that I had invested in so heavily. I accepted the offer, which also very generously I must add, included taking back any 3rd party accessories I had bought for the camera. At this point I was also banned from REDUSER permanently (considering the emails I was receiving I do not believe this was a “mistake” but a deliberate ban.) I was reinstated two days later without an apology. I have not posted there since.

EPIC在25P模式下会死机。。。

这里面说的是JARRED？平常看他在论坛里的发言，挺正常的啊。。。

http://www.reduser.net/forum/sho ... light=phillip+bloom

ESCARGOT老师，求内幕爆料

Escargot

我什么都不知道

subarulove

还以为是什么天大的事情呢。。。。

雷爷

无语你真是名副其实的Red 脑残粉 名副其实

brian_zheng

简单说来，就是philip bloom说了epic的一些不好的地方，RED高层怒了，说他违背了买机器时候的协议：不能说EPIC的坏话。

PB怒了，说， 我花8万美元买了EPIC只能说它的好话，我又不是你们的枪手，我tmd花了如此多钱买的东西，我爱怎么说怎么说。RED怒了，我卖EPIC给你，已经是恩赐你们了，你把机器退还给我，我不给你EPIC用了，我们要收回机器。

PB怒了，我的价值观不让我这样当五毛党，你们这样的价值观，哥也不跟你们这样的公司玩了，退货吧，还有第三方附件也算上。马上，RED把他reduser论坛的账号永久性封了。

ying7

不幸的分手，未完的结局

无语的人

brian_zheng 发表于 2011-12-11 17:46
简单说来，就是philip bloom说了epic的一些不好的地方，RED高层怒了，说他违背了买机器时候的协议：不能说E ...

没封账号，那是误操作，看清楚

小摇臂

"PB怒了，说， 我花8万美元买了EPIC只能说它的好话，我又不是你们的枪手，我tmd花了如此多钱买的东西，我爱怎么说怎么说。"

哈哈，支持PB!

jam_wu

更喜欢用ALEXA的人路过

无语的人

a_l_n 发表于 2011-12-12 15:15
RED的公关策略的基础就是让原本绝对不可能用上摄影机的人在心里产生一个有可能用上摄影机的幻想，从而获得大 ...

我躺着中枪，哈哈。

2643688

brian_zheng 发表于 2011-12-11 17:46
简单说来，就是philip bloom说了epic的一些不好的地方，RED高层怒了，说他违背了买机器时候的协议：不能说E ...

想知道坏话内容

fatcathome

是啊，我很讨厌现在的果粉，我不是果粉，但我是从apple2开始用，经历7200，9600，绿G3，灰G4，银G5，也参与汉化开发了不少软件，PC有PC的优势，mac有mac的问题，可是当我站在中立的立场去分析的时候，换来的却是谩骂和侮辱...唉...

brian_zheng

a_l_n 发表于 2011-12-12 15:15
RED的公关策略的基础就是让原本绝对不可能用上摄影机的人在心里产生一个有可能用上摄影机的幻想，从而获得大 ...

有道理。
但是苹果对待客户的态度跟RED不是一个层次吧。

brian_zheng

2643688 发表于 2011-12-14 16:33
想知道坏话内容

http://107cine.com/stream/3108/ 有一些EPIC的坏话。比如2K模式下，噪点很严重之类的。应该还有更多。呵呵。
怪不得很少看见EPIC的缺点，原来被RED的协议给禁止了。

2643688

brian_zheng 发表于 2011-12-15 01:27
http://107cine.com/stream/3108/ 有一些EPIC的坏话。比如2K模式下，噪点很严重之类的。应该还有更多。呵 ...

学习了

smap2009

原来RED也会盛名难副，看来还是有多年光学影像经验的公司靠谱些，不过RED是好样的，拖了那些搞技术壁垒的公司下水，推动了数码影像的发展。